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Advanced Carbine/Pistol III (#161018CP3)

Advanced Carbine/Pistol III (#161018CP3) was meant for those students who have successfully completed the lower modules in both pistol and carbine classes.  The class deal with students firing from their AR-15 rifle and as well as from their handgun of choice under various physical conditions that were placed on them. In order for the students to be successful in this class, they needed a solid understanding of range safety, the fundamental of shooting, reasonable fitness level, physical agility, tactical movements and be able to operate and shoot in low light situations.

This advanced class was attended by:

  • Weir Chris
  • Spencer Keith
  • Wisdom Lance
  • Shaw Dave
  • Steinwender Mike
  • Diguez Robert
  • Sorfazian Hovsep

Drill 1: (10 rounds from 100 yards)

Shooters were given 30 second par time to shoot an accurate 5 rounds from prone position at a target 100 yards away for score. In order for the shooter to be successful, it would have been to their best interest to take as much time allotted. Many had shot way too fast (with in 15 sec) for no reason aside from nerve endued acceleration of speed.

The 2nd phase of this drill involved shooting 1 round from prone position x 5 – 2 shooters at a time.  Simple fact of having to shoot against another person adds stress. With each shot, shooter had to stand up and again assume the prone position with each signal. This had forced the students to use their legs which in turn elevated their heart rate after about 3rd shot.

Bonus: man to man shooter off. 1 round on steel from 100 yards. Hit were hits, misses were misses.  Not score.

100 max point

  1. Robert 93
  2. Lance 92
  3. Chris 91
  4. Keith 91
  5. Mike 75
  6. Dave 58
  7. Hovsep 0 (Did not participate)

Drill 2: 50 yard – Off hand with turns and move (20 Rds)

Students were called to 50 yards.  They were to turn right, left or away from the target and needed to shoot 2 rounds with each signal.  Shooters had to turn and face the target effectively and quickly which requires good body mechanic and agility.

200 max point

  1. Chris 189
  2. Keith 188
  3. Dave  180
  4. Mike  164
  5. Robert 153
  6. Hovsep  150
  7. Lance  137

Drill 3: Venti 100 (Pistol 25 rds @ 3 yrds)

Shoot into a 1 inch circle from 3 yard  line as prescribed.

  • Close eyes 5 rounds
  • 1000-1, 1000-2, 1000-3…
  • 1 and 2 and 3 and 4…
  • 1 – 2 – 3 – 4 – 5
  • 1,2,3,4,5,

250 max point:

  1. Dave   200
  2. Chris  180
  3. Lance   170
  4. Keith  160
  5. Mike   140
  6. Robert  140
  7. Hovsep   100

Drill: 4 Pistol-I Test (Modified) (2o rds)

Students were to assume low ready with their rifle. On the go, students were to come up and dry press their rifle. The quickly transition to their pistol and fire 5 rounds from 5, 10, 15, 20 yards.

These were shot in Par time:

  • 5 yds – 5 seconds
  • 10 yds – 6 seconds
  • 15 yds – 8 seconds
  • 20 yds – 10 seconds

200 max point:

  1. Keith   195
  2. Dave    192
  3. Chris   191
  4. Lance    186
  5. Robert   185
  6. Mike    182
  7. Hovsep    146

Drill 5: “DOT RUN” (50 rds from 3 yards)

This was brutal.  All shooters were called to 25 yards with rifle slung.  On the signal, shooters were to run down as quickly as possible to the 3 yard line, draw and fire each circle as prescribed per Dot Torcher shooting sequence.  Elevated heart rate quickly challenged each shooters and forced them to manage their breathing.

500 max point:

  1. Lance     490
  2. Dave     480
  3. Chris    460
  4. Keith    460
  5. Mike     370
  6. Hovsep     350
  7. Robert    330

Drill 6: Rifle Reloading  (25 rds)

The drill directed the shooters to move forward two steps and fire 2 rounds with their rifle – side step to reload. Depending on their weapon system, this took extra time to complete. Many had forgotten to move out of the line of fire which was immediately correctly.

250 max point:

  1. Chris 246
  2. Lance 239
  3. Keith 237
  4. Mike 205
  5. Robert 228
  6. Hovsep 229
  7. Dave 188

Drill 7: Pistol Reloading

Shooters reported down to 7 yard line and fired various pairs and failure drills incorporating precise reloading for time. 1 shooter shot against the timer.  Dave and Lance were consistently fast and swift. Hovsep performed the technique with smoothness that no one could match. Some had difficulty with getting the magazines out of their pouch due to untested gear, extra vest and unfamiliarity with their new gear. Ultimately, scores on the paper spoke loudly at the end.  Single hand shooting with primary and support side only were also incorporated.

200 max point

  1. Chris 192
  2. Keith  185
  3. Lance 181
  4. Dave 178
  5. Hovsep 154
  6. Mike  164
  7. Robert 128

Drill 8: 50 yard pistol (5 rounds)

Students had the opportunity to shoot just 5 rounds from 50 yards from any position of their choice.  Many did not make the target and some missed all 5 rounds entirely out of the paper.  This is an unique opportunity to see how your handgun can perform at this distance.  Many shot to their left. need to investigate the cause further.

Not scored.

Drill 9 100 yards to 3 yard movements (High Port Position)

Carbine/Pistol III students were introduced to High Port position for running. They were called to 100 yard line with fully loaded magazines – concept of ammo management were stressed during the class – that they were responsible for their ammo and that each time they were on the line to shoot they were to be “battle” ready.

  • At 100 yards, students were instructed to run to 75 yards in high port position and assume a brace kneel position to fire 5 rounds
  • Run 75 to 60 yards in high port and assume double kneeling and fire 5 rounds
  • Run 60 to 50 yards in high port and assume speed kneel and fire 5 rounds
  • Run 50 to 25 yards in high port and assume off hand standing and fire 5 rounds
  • Run 25 yards to 10 yards in high port and fire 5 rounds standing (speed)
  • Run 10 to 3 yards with rifle slung and draw and fire 5 rounds with their pistol

Any non- center body mass shots were considered DQ such as the hand, arm, lower leg, paper/cardboard areas.

DQ’d: Chris, Robert, Dave, Lance – not reflected in scores.

Drill: 10: 2-2-2-2-2 drill

3 rubber humanoid targets were staged 5 to 7 yards away.  Students were to shoot each target with 2 rounds each from left to right and 2 rounds each from right to left continuously – 10 rounds per shooter.

Element of proper target transition was addressed.

Introduced team shooting with 2-2-2-2-2 drill. Shooter’s partner was to assume SUL position facing uprange (covering 6) and as soon as the shooter runs out of ammo, they were to communicate and swap position for additional 10 rounds by the new shooter.

Not score.

Drill 11: Bounding

Students were introduced to the LE/Military concept of bounding forward. The verbal command of “Moving, Move, Set, Reloading” were applied using the entire range from 100 yards to 50 yards.  Shooters were to shoot steel targets to provide cover fire while their partner advanced forward from cover to cover. Loud and clear voice commands were stressed.

Upon reaching 50 yards bounding, the range officer instructed the 2 students to apply safety and let their rifle sling down.  They were then instructed to run 5o yards down range towards the 3 humanoid targets already set up and perform 2-2-2-2-2 Drill on them taking turn. Utilized the concept introduced in Drill #9.

Not score.

Drill 11: Introduction to Room Entry

Fundamental of room entry with a 2 man team was discussed.  Room coverage and responsibilities were also discussed. Live fire application was conduced in both handgun and as well as with rifle.  Proper use of hand held flashlights were addressed and needed to complete this drill.

Concept of stacking, SUL, squeezing, criss-cross, buttonhook, announcing exits were discussed.

Furthermore, target identification, target discrimination were also a part of the element of the room entry. Students were give an hand written note instructing them not to shoot or shoot alphabetized/numbered victims or suspects. For example, students were shown a piece of paper with “A, O, 3” was written.  They would be told to shoot only A, O, 3 targets which were clearly marked on each targets. Any other shots on other targets would have been mis-identified shots.  This process had greatly slow downed the shooters where they needed to properly use their flashlights to identify.

END Class:

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